Graceful Rulebreaking with: Carmelia Ray

Meet Carmelia Ray - a celebrity matchmaker, tv host, producer, relationship expert, social media savant, entrepreneur, and all-around incredible human. In this super fun and wildly candid episode, Carmelia and Kirsten cover everything from networking on Clubhouse to dating and relationships. If you need a laugh or a smile, or some poignant advice on how to go after what you want, this episode is for you.